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team to advance it's nucle ra forr seven years, for over seven years the international community has tried sanctions with iran under the leadership of president obama, the international community has passed some ofhe strongest sanctions to date. i wa to thank the governments reenhehave joined in this effort. it's had an effect. oil exports have been curbed, and the iranian economy has been hit hard. it's had an effect on the eco ecy, wust face the truth. sanctions have not stopped iran's nuclear program either. according to the international atomic energy agency, during the st year alone iran has doubled the mber oftresn its underground nuclear facility.
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at this late hour there's only one way to peacefully prevent iran from getting atomibombs. that'sy pla a clear, red line on iran's nuclear weapons program. [ applause ] re lin'tea to war. red lines prevent war. just look at nato's charter. it made ear that an attack on one membecountry would be considered an aack o all. nato red line heldo k the peace in europe for nearly half a century. president kennedy selt a red lineuring the cuban missile crisis. that red line also prevented war and helped preserve the peace for decas.
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in fact, it' tai t place red lines that's often invited aggression. if the western powers had drawn clear red lines during the 1930s, i believe they would have stopped nazi aggression and world waii might have been avoided. in 1990, if saddam hussein had been clearly told that his conquest of kuwait would css a red line, the first gulwar might have been avoided. th iran.d lines have soke earlier this year iran threatened to close the strait of hormuz. the united states drew a clear red line, and iran backed off. now, redes cld be drawn in different parts of iran's nuclear weapons program.
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to be credible a red line must be dra first andforemost in one vital part of their ogram. on's efforts to enrich uranium. now, let me explain why. basically any bomb consists of exosive material and a the simplest example is gunpdeand a fuse. that is you light the fuse, and you set off the gunpowder. in the case of iran's plans t build a nuclearweapon, the gunpowder is enriched uranium. th fuses nardetonator. for iran amassing enough enriched uranium is far more difficult than producing the nuclear fuse. for a country like iran, it takes many, many yrs tic
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uranium for a bomb. that requires thousands of centrifuges spinning in tandem in big, very big industrial plants. those iranian plants a visie, and they're still vulnerable. in contrast, iran could produce the nuclear detonator, the fuse, in a lot less time. maybe under a year. e detonator can be made in a small workshop the size of a classroom. it may be very difficult to find and target that workshop, especially in iran. that's a country that's bigger than france, germany,ity, brain combined. the same is true for the small facility in which they could
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assemble a warhead or nuclear device that could be placed in a container ship. chances are you won't find that facility either. so, in fact, the only way that you can incredibly prevent iran from up developing a nuclear weapon is to prevent iran from amassing enough enriched uranium for a bomb. how much enriche uranium do you ne for a bomb? and how close is iran to getting it? let me show you. brought a diagram for you. here's a diagram. this isbomb is i a fuse. in the case of iran's nuclear plans to build a bomb, this bomb has to be filled with enough an has to go through three
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stages. the first stage, they have to enrich enough low rich uranium. the second stage, they have to enrich enough medium eiche eyre urium. ththir and final stage, they have to enrich enough high enriched uranium for the fst bomb. where is iran? iran's completed the first stage. took themanyear buthey completed it and they're 70% of the way there. now they're well into the second sta stage, and by next spring at most by next summer at current enrime rates they ll he finied t medium enrichment and move on to the final stage. from there it's only a few months, psibly a few weeks
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before they get enough enriched urium for the first bomb. la agentlemen, what i've told you now is not based on secret information. it's not based on military intelligence. it's based on the public reports of the international atomic energy agcy. they're online.. so if these are the facts, if these are the facts, and they are, where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawnht here. befo before, before iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment necessary to make a bomb. erit's few months away or few weeks away from amassing
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enough enriched uranium to make a nuclear weon. now, each day that point is getting closer. that's why i speak today with such a sense of urgency, and that's why everyone should have a sense of urncy. now, there are some who claim that even if iran completes the enriment process, even if it crses rint i just drew, our intelligence agencies will know when and where iran will make the fuse, assemble the bomb and prepare the warhead. look, no one areciates intelligence agencies more than the prime minister of israel. all these leading intelligence agencies are superb, including
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ours. they foiled many attacks. they've sav many ves. they are not foolproof. for over two years our intelligence agencies didn't know that iran was building a huge nuclear enrichment plant under a mountain do wwant to risk the security of the world on t aumptn atwo find in time a small workshop in a country half the size of europe? dies and gentlemen, the relevant question is not whe iran willet t bomb. the relevant question is, at what stage can we no longer stop iran from getting the bomb. the red line must be drawn on iran's nuclear enrichment program because these enrichment lies anl nuclear installations that we can definitely see and credibly target.
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i believe that faced with a clear red line iran will back down. this wille more f sanctions and diplomacy to convince iran to dismantle its nuclear weapons program altogether. two days ago from this podium, president obama rterad that the tt of a nuclear-armed iran cannot be contained. i very much appreciate the president's position, as does everyone in my country. we share the goal of stopping iran's nuclear weapons program. th goal unites thepl israel, it unites americans, democrats and republicans alike, and it is shared by important leaders throughout the world. what i have said today will help ensure that this common goal i
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achieved. le israel is in discussions with the united states over this issue, and i'monfident we can chart a path forward together. ladies and gentlemen, tla ee it need not be a clash between progress and tradition. the traditions of the jish people go back thousands of years. they're the source of our collective values the rength.ions of o nna at the same time the jewish people have always looked towards the future. throughout history we've been at the forefront of efforts to expand liberty, promote equality, and advance human righ. mpd these principles not in spite of our traditions but because of them. we hid the words of the jewish
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prophets isaiah, a moss sxwrar mya to treat all with dignity and compassion, to pursue justice and life, and to strive for peace. these are the timeless values of my people, and these are the t om ourselves today to defend these values so we can defend our freedoms and protect our common civilization. thank you. > israel's prime minister been ya minimum netanyahu is concludes his speak drawing a red line as we talked so much abt in an illustration in a diagram he jt brought in. jim frederick is international
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reporter for ti"time" magazine. bibi said the hour is getting late, very late. he pulled out a diagram and talked about iran's uranium enrichment program. is he saying it' time to target, to bomb those cili? aiey vra they're able to see. what does he mean the action should be now that there's a literal red line that he's drawn on this dry gram? >> clearly what he marked out was second stage uranium enrichnt. his time line thathat procsing will bonete next spring or summer at the latest. >> according to information they've obtained? >> right. according to netanyahu. it sounds like until that time that is the threat thatnless diplomacy and sanctions work, up kee efel reserving und m the right to bomb facilities after that point. >> you mentioned sanctions. the prime minister said that under the obama ainistration strong sanctions have been put
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into place, and to date they have worked affecting the economy ofan aithey've not stopped in deterring the nuclear program that that country is pursuing. he spent much of the speech setting the stag talking about iranian aggression saying this is what we've seen in iran where they've turned on their own people without aucarweapon. whan tor et if iran is able to obtain a nuclear weapon? an interesting note. he said in his remarks the middle east, europe and america would not be safe. >> yes. this presupposes that iran is not a rational actorr is sometimes described as death call. it's not clear. we've gone through this. i don't know if you were in the late 1990s and early 2000s we went through the same rhetoric with north korea. it s ine. e world would go through no
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effort and they couldn't trust them with a bomb, south korea could be destroyed although the touch the button. president clinton said north korea will never use that bomb, because if they do, it will be th end o north korea. nyisar about the repur repercussions would be for iran if it continues to pursue enrichment. other than a lot of rhetoric, it's not clear what would happen, if it's already too late. if iran, in fact, does possess oroe soon possess a nlear weap. obviously, you have mr mr. netanyahu referring to mahmoud ahmadinejad's speech earlier before the u.n. the samehetoric we heard. a call for the destruction and elimination of rael. israel says there's an imminent that. the's notn ame in e country to what iran will do and about iran. we have factors put into place here. we're in a general election, and we have governor romney attempting to use the president's words against him
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regarding israel. i think its important to note thatennethuai under the obama administration these strict sanctions were pult into place, and they have worked. praising, if you will, the obama administration. with all of that said, his speech boiled down to, there's an imminent threat. he compared it to the holocaust well,nd hels tt action must be taken within the next year it sounds. >> yeah. it will be interesting to see in the text day or two how the obama administration responds. we knew this red line speech was comi. wenew that the obama administration and netanyahu ecallyidee necessarily on the future actions to take. it's been abundantly clear obama has not appreciated having his hand forced by netanyahu. netanyahu has absolutely realized that this is an election season, has been accused probably rightly so of putingertaints u.s. election system to what he perceives to be his benefit. now that we know what the
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netanyahu red line is, it will be interesting to se how the obama admistration responds, whether or not it agrees. i have a sense that they will not appreciate having been is ?ed into y aee wh do you not agree? it's interesting to see what the white house does. >> thank you very much, jim. it's a pleasure to have your analysis. thank you. we have more breaking news we're following. the liberal website, "mother jones," the same wsite na posted theomcot, they've posted a new video of governor romney from when he was the ceo of bain capital back in 1985. nbc news has not been able to determine whether this latest video has been edited, but in you clearly hear governor romney, who,course,as run r id o hin background as a job creator describing his firm's vision. >> bain capital is an investment partnership, which was formed to invest in startup companies and ongoing companies, then to take
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an aive hand in maningm hopefully five to eight years later to harvest them at a significant profit. >> the romney campaign also released a statement saying, quote, in addition to startg new businesses, mitt mney helped build bain capital bill turning around broken companies. thprobm tayt president obama hasn't been able to turn around our economy in the same way. let's bring in mark mckinnon is chris fs. mark, this tape comes out the same day the obama cap pain released a new ad hitting that 47% comment romney made behind closed doors. in this bain capital clip -- we don'knowf itte see the entire tape himself. he's talking about his company and harvesting the profits. not about creating jobs or saving jobs.
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mark. >> yeah. well, this is another in a sees oveton't make up for a good week or two for the romney campaign. this strikes me as an issue that's deeper and more problematic in some ways because the whole issue of bain and what bain means and the whole concept rivate equity is a debate that thiul -- that should have been had a long time ago in the campaign. i would liked to have seen the romney campaign put that issue forward rather than waiting for it to be taken on later in the campaign wn the don't have an opportunity to talk about job t terms.and what pvate equit rather, they do it late in the campaign in a defensive posture, which is problematic. >> mark, is that the reason that the conversation was avoided? we heard so many times that governor romney would describe bain and h role there and the value of that company. knoitriequities.
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we know how that game works, at least to some degree. none of us are wall street men and women in the conversation, buwe know the realities of private equity. is this taper some of the vision for bain capital the ver reas we dt hea him solidly defend that record because his vision was to harvest the profits of some of these companies they went in? >> well, i don't think we really know the reality, because we haven't ha the longer discussion. weave perceptionbouthe ve shorthanded as mitt romney was doing in that tape. he was shorthanding what parlt of theirusiness objective is. as part ofhat business objective, they saved weak companies. by saving weakcompanies, those companies didn't go out of business. theyidin fac savlots of jobs tt pblouav -- that would have been lost because of companies would have gone under because they didn't have somebody come in and put them together and help save the jobs, shld build the companies
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and create profits at the same time. now we're talking abt the profits for bain. >> we're talngbout the rn lt cnt on health care. let me play what he said in a recent interview wh one of my nbc colleagues. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of my kids in hi state have health shurnts. i don't think there'snying that shows morempar about the people of this country than that record. obama care is exhibit number 1 of the president's political philosophy, and that is that government knows better than people how to run their lives. >> what you saw there, chris, isthntewith my colleague ron mott right before an event in ohio. you have behind the scenes governor romney saying that this is an example of his empathy, that universal health care in massachusetts. he goes on the stage and says something complely different. we, i,s clearly a
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tortured candidate when it comes to his positions. when you look at his record when he was governor of massachusetts, he was a more moderate republan. he moved to a far right to win the nomination. 's bnaralyzed b tha neit appease the far right of the republican party. you have this now dilemma going into in the last 40 sore so days of the election. his message hast worked and he's come across because of this new video is cold and indifferent to the flight of hard-working people. so now he's trying to show an elm pathetic side that contradicts his earlier positionsnd statements. it's not a good place for any candidate at thi time of the eltion. 'sea broor the romney campaign. >> does it speak to the problem that you saw coming early in in that romney had to take a certain stance it to win the
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republican primary? a lot of people eected him to move ateast somhat to the center onueerps not health care, because that is something we've heard as a rallying cry for many republicans, repeal obama care. here we are 40 days out, and he uses this as an example, universal health care when he was governor a badge of r, be uld want to strip it from everyone else in this did you nocountry. it's a broader, larger problem which is pretty simple. i think you put your finger on it. i believe in his heart mitt romney is much more the perso he was when he was governor. he's much moreso in the vain of his father. i think he's a transactional guy and understands how to achieve results. part of achieving results in the political framework, looked at t republican primarynd realized he wouldn't win unless he haddsao that particularly conservative audience in the primaries, and that's what happened.
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the problem in the larger context it appears transactional and inauthentic. >> let's talk about the polls out right now. you have president obama up in a kwha fe battlegroundates significance than perhaps looking the national polling out there. mark, i want to play a number of republicans and conserve tifs are saying about the polls themselves. let's play it. >> are these polls dishonest? >> no. look, we end them wit a false scientific precision they simply don't have. >> these polls, i don't pay attention to them. it depends when you ask and how you asknd what the sample is. >> all of these polls are assuming a veryigh tut g afterwardsrican-americans and latinos and young people. that produces a skew that makes them vastly more democratic than the actual sample is. >> we know a lot can change and we debates coming up.
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do y believe those men i jt sh bveorha they said? >> they have a job, and their job is to paint the best picture possible. >> na means no, right? they don't believe anything they're saying, right? >> i believe they're putting the best face possible on it. that's their b. >> i agreeith that. that's their jo tryingouthe b face forward, mark. it's interesting. there was a conversation last night, though, in trying to spin the poll numbers, there needs to be more conversation on this campaign and what appears to be -- don't wan to use the word debacle, but anything can change b pps mismanagement. joe scarborough was laughing out loud on air on mitt romney's response when the crowd chanted ryan as opsed to ryan/romney, mark. >> when things go bad they go bad with increasing frequency. in september of 2000, we had a
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seri of events like this and mishaps and everyone thought we should be fired, and then we went into the debates and went from do 3 up. stuff happens. politics is interesting. >> stuff happens. we're both from texas. >> we have six weeks left, tamron. >> i'm about keeping it hot and interesting, but i have to keep it real. based in reality, and i don't know ithat's the case right now. >>art. i think this is one of the things that concerns me about this election. this is not like 2008 where it was clear especially after the financial crisis that president obama or then senator obama was in a position to win that election. right now he's in a strong position. gornoromy'sampaign i cly flailing, but there is still a lot of uncertainty underneath these numbers. i'm just being honest, because i think democrats need to keep that perspective. if governor romney does well in the debate -- i don't know he will, but if he does that's a turning int. timeeft in the election.
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democrats and the bahama campaign dish democrats need to keep their eye on the ball. this election is not over contrary to what polls may say. >> absolutely. it is not over, which is why it's so fascinating so much te is spent on allegations tha the poarccurate as opposed to conversations lending help to the romney campaign if it can be helped at this point coming up with a list of loopholes to close. that's just one thing. let me bring to e coersation inton kis a political science professor in virginia. thank you so much for your time. we have romney and obama in virginia right now. we have this segment called purple rain for a ra. it's solidly purple, and this is an interesting race for many reasons in virginia. the problem in virginia for the romney campaign is they're on the defensive on all the issues, on theeconomy, women's issues, national security, all
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of issues that are important they're on the defensive right they don't have an iue opening to pressba campaign on in virginia. they're behind on the economy, which was supposed to be president obama's weakness. so i think they're really in trouble in virginia we've seen a slip on the part of the romne campaign since the conventionsohart convention bounces, it turned into a convention slide in virginia. we have a series of polls out now that show the gap widening between obama and romney. i think the rney campaign needs to find anpening, a ga to shoot in virginia on that issue. they need to press that gap. >> it's interesting you say that the spokesperson for the rnc in saz said obviously in 2008 we got our clock cleaned here and got caught flat foolted. we're just casng a real wide atyokef that statement, professor?
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>> well, it may be a wide net, but it's not capturing anything. in the latest swing state poll, they're behind on every issue. i mean, the number one issue that the romney campaignas going to pinba th're hind on, the economy. they're behind on national security. they're behind on dealing with the international crises. this is a state with a huge military presence, and they're behind on two issues. i don't know what they're doing, and i think that' the problem. i don't know that people, the voters know what they're dog. thon honent message from the romney campaign. >> thank you so much for your time. mark, let me bring you back in real quick. romney was talking about the military and his commitment. he ss as commander i chief i cantand with you aaye won't shrink our military commitment. to the professor's point, talking about the military, defense spending and these issues into the budget as opposed to getting back on the economy in that state.
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>> well, missouri is a ver 's surprising that that senate race there is even close. it just testifying to how conservative it is. >> you're welcome. take care. >> i think romney is loong for a message that appeals to that particular constituency in ou heee o an economic message for a long time, and i think he should stay on that. he's finding an appeal to the professor's pint. they haven't won without virginiaflorida and ohio. twould certainly bring inut some votes, perhaps he wouldn't be able to keep that promise. >> may not be constitutional, buthat's what he needs. >> i'm not sure that goes far enough to help them in virginia right now. >> a little trash talkrom chris. co uex >> if i could sit down with you in your living room or around the kitchen table, here's what
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will be back on the fields in a few hourwhen the browns take onhe ravens. the lgue and it's 12 locked-out officials reached a tentative deal late last night. roger goodell was asked whether the deal was prompted by outrage over monday night he's blown call that caused the packers their victory over the seahawks. >> it helped to pht te point where we were -- got the agreement that we really needed to get and kept us in there. i think there was a real pressure, i think, for everyone to get the officials back on the field this weekend. >> under the tentative eight-year deal, the refs get eisin i intact forwaed. the next four years. average salaries to $135,000 a year to. the yove been fired up about it. i heard you all morning long on arut this. did it come down to the fans and
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that awful call -- well, one of a couple of awful calls we watched, dave? >> one way to describe it that makes it very clear. as of monday morning the nfl was offeri offering bup kiss to the referees and they were begging them to come to the table. one play he crystallized for the entire nfl universe the problem. e ce 1 million honealls to tweets concerned by the president of the darn united states not to mention the mayor of green bay and the concern for the union by the most anti-union politician in the united states, governor scott walker of wisconsin. that's all it too to mov the ners to the negotiating table. >> you talk about the president. jay carney earlier today said the president's reaction was they're pleased the two sides came together and ensure they're going forward when we watch the favorite teams play in the nfl.
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how ironic the rens play tonighwithheegulfs because in, and it was one of their games in question. >> it was the sunday night game, which before monday night was the topic of the conversation. what happened on sunday night cannot be said on your wonderful family progra but it involved 70,000 fans in unin for a solid minute chanting profanity at the official. it involved the new england coach, bill belichick, physically trying to grab one of theofficials. i have it on good authority from a source inside the nfl who said to me that one of their great concerns is all thisngl spill overonto the field and you might see a player or coach actually take a swing at one of these overmatched, undertrained scab yefres. >> costas said on the "today" show he was concerned about t safety, if one cal w against the home team, who would somebody with too many beers react to all of this? the bolt tom line is the amount
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of money the nfl brings in. the tv deals and merchandise. it goes on and on and on. why did it get to this point over what seemed like a rebl amell along? >> this could have been settled for the price of a 30-second super bowl ad. >> what happened? >> what happened is simply. this is by ideology and not about economy. there have been four lockouts in the last year. two in the nfl, the nband now eck the owners have hired the same law firm with the same negotiators. this is about a legal strateg a labor management strategy that i would argue has seeped over from the larger business wld that somehow sees a lockout, which udo he considered the third rail of bargaining as an acceptable tamtics. it is highlighted for the couny, the gap between skilled union labor and unskilled nonunion labor for everybody to
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see. i hoeopl in wisconsin are g sk scott walkers why skilled union labor good enough for nfl officials but not good enough for firefighters and teachersn the state of wisconsin. >> i'll see how happy you are about the regular refs that call somethgou't ke we'll see. >> i'll be cheering for the first call, but i can't promise the second. >> as one labor dispute ends, another one involving amecan airlines is heating up. the company is telling pilots to end suspected flight slowdowns r or they'll take the union to court. icsus the pilots of staging sick-ins and writing up unnecessary repairs. the union is denying all of that, by the way. the impact is real. so far this week alone 57% of american flights arrived on time er82% arrival. today the spokesperson said the pilots are inflicting economic damage on the company, frustrating and alienating our
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customers and drives unnecessary work for other employees. one angry flyerag. htelayed with the prospect of missing one flight a day to st. lucia is not a good start to the honeymoon. we need some lawmakers and other people to get involved inthis, and maybe they can cln is up like the f situation in the nfl, tom. >> 70,000 fans at giants stadium should do it, i would imagine. it's been more than a week that american flights have been significantly delayed. the airline blaming ts on in e jpnickou something like a broken coffeepot or ripped seat. the pilot's union insists there's no organized effort under way, but the airline says it's go to ask a court to sper convient and you asked why. look at the numbers this week. out of 75ed flights so
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far this week, 43% have already been delayed this week, 18% of those accessibly delayed, 9% canceled and now the airline may ask the court to issue an injunction against any pilot tion hethe t n news. quote, we do not want to pursue a legal remedy, but we're left with little alternative if the pilot's union does not take action to stop these pilots intentionally harming the operation. the dispute of the pots has to do with the new wking coioha t ane forced onto pilots after they rejected a new contract offer. american is in bankruptcy. it insists its costs are way out of line compared to competitors. the pilots are clearly unhappy. the pils also say the real lond by the way american is flying the oldest planes, the oldest fleet in the country. that's true. what are customers to do?
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some travel experts say you should avoid flying american until this is resolved. p if you fmen rk getting stuck somewhere or arrive the late. >> tom, we'll talk with you as early as tomorrow on this one. thanks, tom. thobama campaign is out with a new ad wre the president looks into the camera and seems to be making a closing argeno rsut there. >> during the last weeks of this campaign, there will be debates, speeches and more ads. if i could sit down with you in your living room or around the kitchen table, here's what i'd say. when i took offi, we were month and were mired in iraq. today i believe as a nation we are moving forward again. >> nbc's first read makes the point about this ad. they say this new obama spot has the feeling of a closing tv ad 10 days outrom an election d bee op believes we're ten days out or already
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there. mark murray joins me from washington. it's interesting, president obama described former president clinton as the commander in chief of explaining stuffr something. you get that fee with in u arm puthat so many states already are in the process of early voting and we'll have even more at end of next week. >> we're 40 days from election day, and that ad that president obama is playing, a two-minute ad is an ad you almost play out before election date. the obama campaign is treating this like a week out before election day because precisely all this early voting. 30 states across the country, voters in those states a voting in some form or fashion, whether it's absentee or early at includes in the battleground states of iowa, north carolina, new hampshire, wisconsin and virginia. tamron, next week ohio and floridstart voting in some form or fashion. voting is under way, even though
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election day is 40 days from now. >> talkbo sta states. we have maps built in to give people a glimpse of nationde how many states are in the process of early voting. we have the map. some of them at the end of the week, but mark, is there anything to compare this to at least fromheasen well, in the last general election we also saw a lot of early voting in a lot of states. some states scaled back a little bit on the early voting, but i think it's here to stay going forward. what's interesting isheba campaign saw early voting as a way to maximize their folks and bank the votes on their side. for example, when president obama is in ohio yesterday, he told everyone be sure to vote as early as october 2nd when you can start voting early in ohio. they want their folkso ady stcag nce lots in early october. >> the question wasn't about early votes here to stay.
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voting next weeks, ohio, orida, nebraska, new york, connecticut, se of the states. the strategy of having this comfortae, closing aen i t recall this from either candidate at this point? >> you see two different philosophies from the campaigns. you have president obama's campaign team that seems like right now this is election day. let's start to get people out to the polls and get it done. the romney campaign ys ts thing isn't over. polls go up and down. they bank on november 6th when everyone is going to vote, but the romney folks did a good job with absentee voting and early voting in thprimary season. we'll see if that carries over to the general election. >> a l of movingpas. thyo v. a new report says democrats may have largely neutralized the once fear voter i.d. laws to be hurtful to the party during the election. perry bacon will join me live to
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pregnant women exposed to air pollution may put their unborn child at rk for vitin ddeficiency. data shows newborns exposed to air pollution through mothers had a higher risk for vitamin d deficiencies tn those not exposed. it was strongest when exposure occurred during the third trimter. >elback. activist groups and democrats have largely neutralized efforts to disenfranchise millions of voters across the country with new laws at the polls. in pennsylvania a judge decided not to rule today on wtherid y
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to block it. the judge is facing an early october deadline for a ruling. let's bring in perry bacon. perry, let me point out the activists have said or pointded out they believedhiul disenfranchise millions of voters. the bottom line in your report is some of these concerns sparked activist groups to take action and they may have put the co-bash for lack of a better word on some of the ver i.d. laws or have tyde ou s over the last year republicans pass a lot of voter laws. they were designed to change the voting laws in ways democrats thought were discriminatory. democratic groups, liberal grps and naacp in a lot of states went to court to dispute the. xas, ohio, florida and wisconsin the liberal groups have won and they got the laws struck down in court. these laws in a lot of places won't go into effect sxwoent be enforced.
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pennsylvania may do the same thinnext week. >> there'snttingol outhe. "washington post" asked the question should voighter i.d. be required at the polls? 74% said yes. a couple other polls out of pennsylvania showed people in that state supported voter i.d. ws. g that with what you're hearing from activists to what people say in the polling? >> it's spridzing. even on these polls democrat support the edeals. the general idea -- it seems logical when you're asked in the vote.shouldomneav and. the answer is yes, in the same way to get on a plane. when you break down the numbers, african-americans and elderly people both black and white and other races as well tend not to have driver's license in a lot of states. you e up finding the people having tar tng able to register to vote in pennsylvania are 90 years old
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and voted a burchl of times and we put up a roadblock. that's why the laws are so controversial. >> to your point when people a qu, n a i.d. to n shod it get on a plane. what's not factored into the question and chris matthews did a great job on this who descrid in great detail what the process was like in pennsylvania for one person. it took around four hours to get an i.d. pnki a couple of an 80-yol jobs and you have to carve this out and never been required to do this before and always voted responsibly. >> what the courts have generally found what yousaid. the republicans argue there's a big voter fraud problem and we ed tse la wi t courts even republican judges have said, we don't see a voter fraud problem that exists, and we certainly don't stee one tha exists in the way we should make 90-year-olds spend so much time getting new voting applications to vote.
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it's not a big enoughroems jfy n laws and rule against them. >> perry bacon, thank you for your time. >> thanks, tamron. up next is the gut check. another labor dispute. we're up next. you'll also find us in person, with dedicated sport teams so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, rey hel 'swo snyest teams are nearbysaying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade.
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